Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

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Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby byrdsworth » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:13 pm

Hey All

Looking for info / advice on running lines aft to cockpit around a sliding hatch

Pros and cons of different setups ... photos would be good

I want to run the following lines to the cockpit

Boom vang
Cunningham
topping lift
main halyard

also different setups for cabin top sheeting ?

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby Woz » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:58 pm

Byrds

I have fun the main and spinnaker halyards back to rope jammers and on the cabin top. The halyards exit at the base on the mast and thru turning blocks (cheek blocks) on the cabin tops then to the jammers.
I can use this setup with the hatch wide open without any problems.
The boom vang and Cunningham could be run thru stand up blocks then to the cheek blocks which can be stacked on top of each other, then to the jammers.
I have set up a gas strut assisted boom vang which eliminates the need for a topping lift.
Where the fittings are bolted to the cabin top you can squeeze some epoxy in the gap to help spread the load.
The attached photos are the fittings I used.
I will send some photos of the cabin top thru when I get back to the boat next or PM me for my contact details.

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby paul trotter » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:12 pm

Good thinking The Byrd.

My jib sheeting system is second to none and modelled on the Don Ray format on Storm. Works a treat.

My jib halyard, main halyard, cunningham all run back over the cabin roof and the system works well.

My vang and topping lift arrangement could be improved. i'll see if I can find some photos.

You will also need to think about spreaders for the Mark 3.

Maybe that should be subject to a separate thread but here are my thoughts.

With the 186kg CB you have the joys of stability and a much more upright vessel in bigger airs but..........

I suspect this extra weight leads to greater pressure on the mast in heavier weather. The spreaders counter this situation by stiffening the stick up. Alas the great Don Ray rectified this situation on Storm by installing a foiled but lighter 64 kg plate but foiled for speed and lift.

I must admit I prefer the less tender fat 186kg plate which makes for great lazy sailing or cruising and keeps my beer form spilling.

You may find that the baby stay needs to be tensioned up in bigger airs and if you carry flat or reefed sails you will probably be fine. Take her out in 20 plus knots with a big crew and keep your eye upwards to see how the stick bends to leeward.

At least without the spreaders you will keep some good sail shape on those broad reaches which is not the case with spreaders,

Cheers and well done on a great purchase!
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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby byrdsworth » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:48 am

Thanks Woz and Trotts

Your vang / strut sounds interesting Woz

I've actually been checking these out from Barton Marine http://www.bartonmarine.com/products-boomstrut.asp

I like the look of their deck organisers too http://www.bartonmarine.com/products-or ... utches.asp

I have used some barton gear on "The Byrd" it's good stuff.

The new boat ... is a clean slate ... so want to make sure I get it right

Don sent me some photos of his setup ...which looks good ...

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby Ukuri » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:36 pm

Byrds
I have run the three halyards, pole topping lift and kicker, vang and boom topping lift all back to the cockpit on my C22.
I couldn't find any 4-sheave organisers that were small enough to fit in the space either side of the pop-top so I made up my own. I don't have any pics so I'll take some next time I go to Manly.
Do you intend to have cabin top winch(es)?
If you do then position your jammers in front of the winch so you can load/unload with the winch then cleat/uncleat and free up the winch.
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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby Mark III Amigo » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:49 pm

Byrdy,

What ever you decide, buy two of, and I will do the same

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby Ukuri » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:24 pm

I tried to post some pictures but I got this message.

Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached.

What does this mean?

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby byrdsworth » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:59 am

Just what it says ... I'm guessing the server only has limited capacity for storage of images ... and the quota is full

check out this thread ... option 2 using a photo hosting site

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2043

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby byrdsworth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:22 pm

Thanks Chris

looks like a good set up

I think I've come up with a cunning plan ... will post some photos when I've got it all sorted

BTW ... if you copy and paste the img link for each photo from photobucket into your post the photos can be seen in your post

see below

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby maxm » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:13 pm

byrdsworth wrote:Just what it says ... I'm guessing the server only has limited capacity for storage of images ... and the quota is full


Spot on Byrds. This board is hosted on a virtual server with limited space. While we're not (currently) under pressure for space, we would be if we just made it open slather to everyone. SO ... we limit the space (quota) available to each person. Once you hit your quota then it's time for you to consider more complicated schemes for sharing your photos. Like uploading photos to places like Photobucket and then just posting a link here back to the photo. Depending on how the link is done, the site software here is smart enough to go fetch your photos off Photobucket and show them to you whenever you read the topic. The end result can be indistinguishable from you posting photos here.

Photobucket seems to have infinite space. :shock:
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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby Mark III Amigo » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:10 pm

Hey emu,

What's the status of you and your new boat?

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Re: Running Lines aft - around sliding hatch

Postby byrdsworth » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:51 pm

Hey Dave

New boat needs a little work .. but been flat out with other stuff so haven't even got the mast up yet

Plus I really need to sell "The Byrd" .. can't see any progress on either front till after xmas ..

have had a couple of lookers checking out "The Byrd" but no offers yet.

So still might even put The mk111 on the market yet ..

Basically too many boats not enough time ...

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